Comments on: Terror as Adaptation http://blog.cas-group.net/2008/10/terror-as-adaptation/ Complex Adaptive Systems Group Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:53:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: CAS-Group Blog » Blog Archive » Torture and Tyranny as Adaptation http://blog.cas-group.net/2008/10/terror-as-adaptation/comment-page-1/#comment-852 CAS-Group Blog » Blog Archive » Torture and Tyranny as Adaptation Wed, 12 May 2010 21:38:04 +0000 http://blog.cas-group.net/?p=321#comment-852 [...] may they didn’t. And just stopped listening to each other. We wrote earlier about Terror as adaptation which can occur if people are threatened by an omnipresent systems or superpower, which can result [...] [...] may they didn’t. And just stopped listening to each other. We wrote earlier about Terror as adaptation which can occur if people are threatened by an omnipresent systems or superpower, which can result [...]

]]> By: jofr http://blog.cas-group.net/2008/10/terror-as-adaptation/comment-page-1/#comment-724 jofr Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:10:54 +0000 http://blog.cas-group.net/?p=321#comment-724 Good point, it is always helpful to see the world from the perspective of others. I guess it is one of the things that make us human. Harper Lee wrote "You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb inside of his skin and walk around in it" (in her novel "To kill a Mockingbird"). Good point, it is always helpful to see the world from the perspective of others. I guess it is one of the things that make us human. Harper Lee wrote “You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view–until you climb inside of his skin and walk around in it” (in her novel “To kill a Mockingbird”).

]]> By: Ebenezer Tolman http://blog.cas-group.net/2008/10/terror-as-adaptation/comment-page-1/#comment-722 Ebenezer Tolman Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:20:56 +0000 http://blog.cas-group.net/?p=321#comment-722 I remember seeing a photo in the NY Times newspaper a few weeks after the U.S. Army invaded Afghanistan and crushed the Taliban-controlled government. There was a map on the wall in a Taliban "intelligence operations center". The map was of the Middle East, and it showed United States flags in areas where the U.S. forces were (2002) operating. I recall Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, Mediterranean Sea, Red Sea, Gulf of Arabia, Somalia, Kuwait, Quatar, United Arab Emirates, probably a few more...Oman? Egypt? That map gave me a "Taliban-eye view" of the Middle East. The Arabs viewed themselves as under occupation by a foriegn government before 9/11, before we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. They probably viewed the WTC terrorist acts in NYC on 9/11 as retaliation for U.S. aggression, while we viewed it as Islamic extremist aggression. So both sides think the other is the aggressor. Not a great way to get to a peaceful solution. I have not yet seen a single statement from the U.S. government since Sept. 2001 that gives any evidence that they have tried to see the world from the other perspective. Instead there was a belief that "force" could prevail. The U.S. government does not seem very adaptive, do they? I remember seeing a photo in the NY Times newspaper a few weeks after the U.S. Army invaded Afghanistan and crushed the Taliban-controlled government. There was a map on the wall in a Taliban “intelligence operations center”. The map was of the Middle East, and it showed United States flags in areas where the U.S. forces were (2002) operating. I recall Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, Mediterranean Sea, Red Sea, Gulf of Arabia, Somalia, Kuwait, Quatar, United Arab Emirates, probably a few more…Oman? Egypt?

That map gave me a “Taliban-eye view” of the Middle East. The Arabs viewed themselves as under occupation by a foriegn government before 9/11, before we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. They probably viewed the WTC terrorist acts in NYC on 9/11 as retaliation for U.S. aggression, while we viewed it as Islamic extremist aggression. So both sides think the other is the aggressor. Not a great way to get to a peaceful solution.

I have not yet seen a single statement from the U.S. government since Sept. 2001 that gives any evidence that they have tried to see the world from the other perspective. Instead there was a belief that “force” could prevail.

The U.S. government does not seem very adaptive, do they?

]]> By: CAS-Group Blog » Blog Archive » Underground economy as adaptation http://blog.cas-group.net/2008/10/terror-as-adaptation/comment-page-1/#comment-721 CAS-Group Blog » Blog Archive » Underground economy as adaptation Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:57:44 +0000 http://blog.cas-group.net/?p=321#comment-721 [...] and terror, it can be considered as a form of adaptation, too. We have argued earlier that terror is an adaptation to the tyranny of selfish global superpowers, while corruption is an adaptation to institutional [...] [...] and terror, it can be considered as a form of adaptation, too. We have argued earlier that terror is an adaptation to the tyranny of selfish global superpowers, while corruption is an adaptation to institutional [...]

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